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T3: "From Metadata Interoperability to Harmonization" Webinar - Shared screen with speaker view
Laura Faulkner
13:50
Yes, this meeting will be recorded!
Mark Leuba
14:26
Sorry I am late everyone.
sarah cacicio
14:45
Hi all, Sarah from Digital Promise.
skyhive _tony
15:06
great , thanks Laura
Taylor Kendal
17:41
... and for the record, MattG volunteered to act as T3 DJ 😁
JWestfall
18:17
Hi this is Joshua Westfall at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation. Thank you all for joining today's webinar. Feel free to introduce yourself on the chat!
Matt Gee
20:36
As T3 DJ, I’m making the official theme song for this project “Sweet Harmony” by Smokey Robinson
Frugoli.Pam
20:49
Pam Frugoli USDOL Employment & Training Administration (unfortunately I have to jump off at noon for another meeting)
Kim Bartkus
21:28
Good Morning! Kim Bartkus from HR Open Standards
phil
23:24
Phil Barker, of Cetis LLP, I work on resource description for education, especially using linked data. I'm involved in the Jobs Data Exchange T3 project.
Doug Lusco
23:36
Hello. Doug Lusco from Skillful (Markle Foundation) and the Skillful State Network.
Michael Sessa PESC
24:20
good day all!
JanvanderHoop
24:37
Since we seem to all be introducing ourselves... Jan van der Hoop from Jobtimize and Fit First Technologies. Hello, all.
Johmarx Patton
26:53
Hi, This is Johmarx Patton. Director of MedBiquitous. Where will this recording be located? I have to leave at noon for another call.
JWestfall
28:54
The recording will be shared over the T3 Network listserv through our next T3 update email. If you haven't been receiving general T3 updates you can join the listeserv at: https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/t3-innovation-network/join-t3. Feel free to share this link with others who want to join the T3 Network.
Greg Nadeau
31:26
Interesting, albeit a bit abstract.
Johmarx Patton
31:32
Thank you. I signed up yesterday, so it's all the stars aligning, I suppose
Robby Robson
32:40
Since we are digging into history and definitions, I want to share Cliff Lynch's definition of metadata, since it is often (wrongly IMHO) defined as "data about data." His definition, which is IMHO much better, is "an assertion about an object." Might want to keep that in mind :)
Scott Gallant
35:11
Continuing the intros... hello all, Scott here... spending most of my time on interoperable standards for Privacy and Trust.
Alex Jackl
36:46
Hello Alex Jackl from Bardic Systems - PESC, A4L, IEEE, T3 - very focused on data standard harmonizations
Brandt Redd
38:42
Robbie, I like Lynch's definition much better as well. I will begin using it.
Brandt Redd
39:11
As far as introductions - I'm Brandt Redd from MatchMaker Education Labs and EdMatrix.org (brandt@redd.org).
Robby Robson
39:55
+1 concerning what is currently on the screen.
Robby Robson
43:26
In particular, when Michael tried to model LOM in RDF, it turned out that there was a significant problem because in LOM you MUST understand where an element is nested and he could not express this in RDF. This meant that properties could become fully decontextualized, so you could not tell whether "Jane" was a contributor, a copyright holder or what.
Robby Robson
45:16
(Not a problem with RDF … a problem with model incompatibility) - Very well explained by Stuart!!
Mark Leuba
50:48
CASE is being published with a JSON-LD binding I'm happy to report. Available shortly.
phil
01:03:14
I was listening to this 10 minute podcast from the BBC this morning, and it's kind of relevant to what Stuart says about interoperability Vs harmonization (if you like stories): 50 Things that made the modern economy: Interchangeable parts, https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csz2wv
Alex Jackl
01:03:25
Stuart - thus approach seems to have one weakness compared to object model approaches as it seems you lose context
Alex Jackl
01:04:35
this is good fodder but I think has pitfalls - there is some great conversations to have!
jimgoodell
01:04:55
With the common abstract model (RDF) it seems there is still value in aligning data element definitions for the most important properties and option sets that are valuable across standards contexts.
Matt Gee
01:08:53
So I’m not missing it, is the primary takeaway that we enable harmonization by having all standards expressed in RDF as the common abstract model?
Matt Gee
01:09:22
…regardless of serialization format.
Matt Gee
01:09:41
+1 on context comment by Alex
Matt Gee
01:10:04
For NLP workflows this is critical for semantic translation
Laura Faulkner
01:11:55
All of these comments in chat will be preserved with the recording
jimgoodell
01:11:56
Perhaps that speaks to both being needed…contextual object model to support use and needs to translate enough of that context and splice.
Matt Gee
01:12:26
interesting^^
Mark Leuba
01:12:32
Thank you Stuart and All! Very good review of the landscape.
jimgoodell
01:12:38
Great presentation Stuart. Looking forward to moving forward
Matt Gee
01:12:41
Essentially, what is needed for lossless convertion
skyhive _tony
01:12:42
thanks lot , skyhive also will contribute